Monday, August 3, 2026

Deep Dive: TMC 17.10.060(b)(1) and Utility Corridors under TMC 17.10.050

1. Exact Code Language

TMC 17.10.060 – Buffer establishment, management, and maintenance

(b) The following structures, practices, and activities are permitted in the buffer, with specific design or maintenance features, subject to the review of the Director of Utilities or designee:

(1) Pedestrian bridges, foot paths, and utilities.

This is the key enabling provision. It does not say utilities are allowed by right with no oversight. It expressly conditions them on:

  • Specific design or maintenance features, and
  • Review (and therefore approval) by the Director of Utilities or designee.

The surrounding subsections reinforce the controlled nature of this permission:

  • Subsection (a) lists the things that are prohibited without written approval (clearing existing vegetation, grading/stripping/soil disturbance, filling, dumping, draining, etc.). Installing a sewer line almost always triggers one or more of those prohibited activities, so the “permitted” status in (b)(1) does not eliminate the need for written approval of the disturbance itself.
  • Subsection (d) requires a permanent Stream Buffer Easement for the buffer area included in the project design.

TMC 17.10.050 – Design standards for buffers

The buffer is divided into two zones with different widths, vegetation targets, and allowable uses:

ZoneType IType IIType IIIVegetation TargetAllowable UsesPrimary Function
Streamside Area50 ft25 ft15 ftNative vegetationStreambank stabilization, flood control, utility corridorsProtect the physical and ecological integrity of the stream ecosystem
Outer AreaGIS-basedGIS-basedGIS-basedNative vegetation or managed lawn (Type II/III)Biking/hiking paths, flood control, detention/retention, utility corridors, stormwater BMPs, residential yards, landscape areasProtect key components of the stream and filter/slow runoff

Key observation: “Utility corridors” are listed as an allowable use in both the stricter streamside zone and the outer zone. This is deliberate. The City recognized that linear utilities (sewer, water, storm, electric, gas, etc.) frequently must cross streams and that completely prohibiting them would be impractical.

2. What “Utility Corridors” and “Utilities” Practically Mean

The code does not define “utility corridors” or expand on what “specific design or maintenance features” means. In practice (based on the permanent Stream Buffer Easement form, subdivision checklists, and stormwater review materials), this language is interpreted as follows:

  • A utility corridor is a linear pathway through the buffer for underground (or occasionally overhead) infrastructure.
  • The corridor itself is allowed, but the method of installation and the restoration after installation are tightly controlled.
  • The City expects the utility to be placed and maintained in a way that does not permanently destroy the buffer’s water-quality, bank-stability, or habitat functions.

Common expectations that emerge from the review process and related documents:

  • Prefer trenchless methods (directional boring, jack-and-bore, etc.) over open-cut trenching whenever feasible, especially in the streamside zone.
  • If open-cut is used, the trench must be as narrow as practical, backfilled properly, and the surface fully restored with native vegetation.
  • No permanent above-ground structures or heavy equipment access roads are allowed to remain in the buffer.
  • The Stream Buffer Easement language typically grants the City (and sometimes the utility owner) the right to enter for construction, reconstruction, inspection, repair, and maintenance of the utility.

3. How the Two Sections Work Together

Aspect17.10.050 (Design Standards)17.10.060(b)(1) (Management)Practical Result for a Sewer Crossing
Status of utilitiesExplicitly listed as allowable use in both zonesExplicitly listed as a permitted activityAllowed in principle
Approval required?Implied by the overall buffer-plan requirementExplicitly requires review by Director of UtilitiesYes – written approval needed
Design control“Utility corridors” must still meet vegetation and function goals“Specific design or maintenance features” requiredPlans must show construction method, restoration, and ongoing maintenance
EasementRequired for the entire bufferReinforced in (d)Permanent Stream Buffer Easement must be recorded
Disturbance of vegetation/soilNot prohibited if it is part of an allowed useStill needs written approval under (a)Buffer Plan + written approval covers both

In short: 17.10.050 tells you that a utility corridor is a legitimate land use inside the buffer. 17.10.060(b)(1) tells you that you still have to get the Director of Utilities to sign off on the specific design and how you will maintain the buffer afterward.

4. Interaction with Other Requirements

  • Buffer Plan (17.10.040): Required for any development inside the buffer. The plan must delineate both the streamside and outer zones and show the proposed utility alignment.
  • Stream Buffer Easement: Mandatory. The standard form used by the City already contemplates utility corridors and grants access rights for construction and maintenance.
  • Grading / Stormwater Management Plan: The utility crossing is almost always reviewed as part of the larger stormwater package. The Stormwater Quality and Quantity Review Checklist specifically flags sites that contain mapped stream buffers.
  • Water Pollution Hazards (17.10.050(d)): On-site septic drainfields have large setbacks (200–500 ft), but a public sanitary sewer line is treated as a utility corridor, not a pollution hazard under that subsection.

5. Bottom-Line Practical Interpretation for a Sewer Line Crossing

The code intentionally creates a pathway for utilities rather than forcing every sewer (or water) line to obtain a formal variance under 17.10.080. However, that pathway is not automatic:

  1. You must submit a Buffer Plan showing the crossing.
  2. The plan must demonstrate “specific design or maintenance features” that protect the buffer’s functions (method of installation, erosion control, native vegetation restoration, long-term maintenance responsibility).
  3. The Director of Utilities (or designee) must review and approve it in writing.
  4. A permanent Stream Buffer Easement must be granted and recorded.

If the proposed crossing is unusually wide, involves permanent surface disturbance, or cannot be designed to minimize impact, staff can still require a formal waiver/variance under 17.10.080 (with alternatives analysis and mitigation).

This structure is typical of modern stream-buffer ordinances: utilities are recognized as necessary linear infrastructure and are therefore listed as permitted uses, but they remain subject to site-specific design review so the buffer’s primary environmental purposes are not lost.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2026

best or better

Here’s a clear side-by-side comparison of establishing buffalograss by seeding versus sod (with plugs included as a middle option).

Quick Overview

FactorSeedingSodPlugs (vegetative)
Upfront CostLowestHighestMedium
Speed to CoverSlow (1–3 years for full density)InstantMedium (full cover in 1 season if spaced closely)
Weed PressureHighest in Year 1Lowest initiallyModerate
LaborModerate (prep + seeding)High (installation)High (planting many plugs)
Best ForLarge areas, budget projectsSmall areas, slopes, instant resultsMedium areas needing faster results
AvailabilityWidely availableLimitedFairly available
Cultivar TypeMostly male + female (seedheads)Usually female-only (cleaner look)Usually female-only

Cost Comparison (Approximate)

  • Seed: Roughly $0.05–0.15 per square foot (or less in bulk). For large acreage this is by far the most economical. Treated/scarified seed costs more than raw burr seed but germinates much better.
  • Sod: Typically $0.55–$1.00+ per square foot for the material alone, plus delivery and installation labor. Total installed cost often lands in the $1.00–$2.00+ per sq ft range. True buffalograss sod is less common and usually more expensive than common turfgrasses.
  • Plugs: Usually fall between the two. Pricing is often quoted per plug or per tray; denser spacing speeds coverage but raises cost.

On a large scale (like the 19 acres you’ve discussed), seeding is the only realistic option from a cost standpoint. Sod would be prohibitively expensive.

Establishment Speed & Results

  • Seeding: Germination takes 1–3 weeks (faster with treated seed and warm soil). Coverage starts patchy. Stolons (runners) spread and thicken the stand over the next 1–3 years. Full dense cover is common by the end of Year 2 or 3 with good management.
  • Sod: Instant green cover. Roots need 2–4 weeks to knit into the soil. Once rooted, it is fully functional.
  • Plugs: Visible progress within weeks. Closely spaced plugs (12 inches or less) can give good coverage by the end of the first growing season; wider spacing takes longer.

Other Key Differences

Weed competition Seeding has the highest weed pressure because the stand is open for the first season. Careful site prep, possible use of labeled herbicides (e.g., mesotrione at seeding), and occasional mowing are important. Sod and closely spaced plugs suppress weeds much better from day one.

Site preparation All three methods need good soil preparation (kill existing vegetation, till/level, firm seedbed). Sod and plugs are a bit more forgiving of minor imperfections than seeding.

Cultivar differences

  • Seeded types (Bowie, Cody, Sundancer, Texoka, etc.) contain both male and female plants, so you will see seedheads (the little “flags”) in summer.
  • Most sod and plug cultivars are female-only selections (Legacy, Prestige, etc.), which produce a cleaner, more uniform look with few or no visible seedheads.

Risk & reliability Sod has the lowest failure risk when properly installed and watered. Seeding has higher risk of poor establishment if moisture, weeds, or timing are not managed well. Plugs sit in the middle.

Recommendation for Your Situation

For a large area where the goal is low long-term maintenance and you can be patient:

  • Seeding is clearly the best choice. It is dramatically cheaper, practical at scale, and produces a durable stand once established.
  • Use treated/scarified seed, prepare the site thoroughly, plant in the proper window (late spring–early summer), and focus on weed control the first year.
  • Consider a light nurse crop of annual ryegrass if erosion is a concern.

Sod makes sense only for small high-visibility areas, steep slopes, or places where you need usable turf immediately and budget is not a major constraint. Plugs are a reasonable compromise for medium-sized areas where you want faster results than seed but don’t want to pay for full sod.

Would you like help estimating seed quantities and approximate costs for roughly 19 acres, or a comparison of specific cultivars? 

Here’s a practical, Kansas-focused guide to establishing buffalograss (especially useful for a larger area like the one you’ve been considering).


1. Site Requirements

Buffalograss needs:

  • Full sun (at least 6–8 hours of direct sunlight)
  • Well-drained soil (it does poorly in constantly wet or very sandy spots)
  • It tolerates clay soils common in the Topeka area quite well

2. Timing (Critical in Kansas)

  • Best window: Late spring to early summer once soil temperatures stay above about 55–60°F (typically May through early July).
  • Non-irrigated sites: Aim for April–May to catch spring rains.
  • Irrigated sites: June planting often gives the fastest, cleanest establishment with fewer weeds.
  • Avoid late summer or fall seeding — seedlings need a long warm season to develop roots before winter.

3. Seed Selection and Rate

  • Buy treated or scarified seed (also called hulled or burr-free). Untreated seed germinates much more slowly and unevenly.
  • Seeding rate (K-State recommendations):
    • 1.5–2 lbs of seed (burrs) per 1,000 sq ft for good coverage in one season.
    • 1 lb per 1,000 sq ft will eventually fill in but takes longer (about 1½ years).
  • For large areas, calculate carefully and buy bulk from a reputable supplier. Look for cultivars such as Bowie, Cody, Texoka, or Sharp’s Improved.

4. Site Preparation (Most Important Step)

  1. Kill existing vegetation with a non-selective herbicide (glyphosate) — usually 1–2 applications for complete kill. Wait the label-required time before seeding.
  2. Till or cultivate the top 2–4 inches to create a firm, smooth seedbed. Remove rocks and debris.
  3. Rake and firm the soil so footprints sink no more than about ½ inch.
  4. Optional but helpful: Soil test and correct major nutrient or pH issues ahead of time. Avoid heavy nitrogen at planting — it favors weeds.

5. Seeding Method

  • Drill seed ¼–½ inch deep if possible (best seed-to-soil contact).
  • Or broadcast and lightly rake/drag so seed is covered ¼–½ inch.
  • Roll or pack lightly after seeding.
  • Optional nurse crop: A light rate of annual ryegrass can help hold soil and suppress weeds while the buffalograss establishes (use sparingly so it doesn’t shade the seedlings too much).

6. Watering During Establishment

  • Keep the top inch of soil consistently moist until seedlings emerge and get a few inches tall (usually 1–3 weeks depending on temperature and seed treatment).
  • Once established, gradually reduce frequency and water more deeply but less often.
  • After the first year, established buffalograss in eastern/central Kansas often needs little or no supplemental irrigation.

7. Weed Control (Year 1 Is the Hard Part)

Weeds are the biggest challenge while the stand is thin.

  • At seeding: Mesotrione (Tenacity) is labeled for use at planting on buffalograss.
  • Post-emergence options safe in the establishment year (check current labels): Quinclorac (Drive XLR8), certain sulfentrazone products, carfentrazone.
  • Mow taller weeds above the buffalograss height to reduce competition.
  • Pre-emergent herbicides (e.g., prodiamine) can usually be used later in the first season after the buffalograss has emerged and been mowed a few times — follow label timing carefully.
  • Hand-pull or spot-spray problem weeds in smaller areas.

8. First-Year Care and Expectations

  • Fertilizer: Optional light nitrogen (about 1 lb N per 1,000 sq ft) in June can improve color and density, but too much encourages weeds. Many people skip it entirely for a more natural stand.
  • Mowing: Optional. You can leave it unmowed (it stays 4–8 inches). Occasional mowing at 2–3 inches can help control weeds and encourage spreading.
  • Full dense cover often takes 1–3 years. Year 1 looks patchy — the plants spread by stolons (runners) and thicken over time.
  • By Year 2–3 it becomes very low-maintenance.

Quick Tips for Success on Larger Acreage

  • Good seedbed preparation and weed control matter more than high seeding rates.
  • Consider drilling rather than broadcasting for better results and seed savings.
  • Patience is essential — buffalograss is slow at first but extremely tough once established.

Would you like a simple calendar for the first year, recommended bulk seed sources in or near Kansas, or help calculating quantities for roughly 19 acres?



Yes, it will aggressively take over once established—that is one of its defining traits—but full, reliable coverage across 19 acres still benefits from solid initial planting rather than minimal seeding.

How aggressively it spreads

Crownvetch spreads both by seed and (more importantly) by underground rhizomes that can extend up to ~10 feet. A single plant can expand to cover 70–100 square feet within about four years. It readily moves outward from planted areas into open, sunny ground and can form dense monocultures that suppress other vegetation.

You do not necessarily need to seed every square foot at the full rate if your goal is eventual takeover. Strip or patch planting (for example, drilling or broadcasting in bands or blocks across the site) can allow natural vegetative expansion to fill gaps over several years. However:

  • Establishment is slow the first 1–2 years (often little top growth while roots develop).
  • Full dense cover commonly takes 2–4 years even with good seeding.
  • Partial seeding delays full coverage and leaves more opportunity for weeds or erosion in the meantime.
  • For 19 acres where you specifically want it to dominate, a moderate-to-full rate across most of the area is the more reliable path.

Seeding rates and methods

Typical pure-stand rates are 10–20 lbs per acre (some guides list 5–15 lbs or up to 15–20 lbs PLS). Lower rates work when combined with good seedbed preparation and a nurse crop; higher rates speed canopy closure.

  • Nurse crop: Annual ryegrass (often 20–30 lbs/acre) is commonly mixed in. It provides quick cover and erosion protection while the slower crownvetch establishes, then declines.
  • Inoculation: Use the correct Rhizobium inoculant for crownvetch (or a general legume inoculant specified for it). This is important for nitrogen fixation and establishment.
  • Timing: Spring (roughly March–May in Kansas) is often preferred; late summer/early fall also works if there is enough moisture and time before hard freezes.
  • Depth and method: Shallow—¼ to ½ inch. Drill or broadcast onto a firm, prepared seedbed and lightly cover/pack. It tolerates a range of soils but prefers well-drained sites and open sun; it does poorly in heavy shade or prolonged wet conditions.
  • Expect slow start: Visible cover is often limited the first season; the plant invests heavily in roots and rhizomes first.

For 19 acres at 12–15 lbs/acre you would need roughly 230–285 lbs of seed (plus nurse crop). Get current bulk pricing—seed is not cheap.

Best places to buy bulk seed

Commercial suppliers that regularly handle crownvetch (often the Penngift, Emerald, or Chemung varieties) include:

  • Ernst Conservation Seeds (Meadville, PA) — well-known for larger quantities and mixes; Penngift is a common offering.
  • Stock Seed Farms, Great Basin Seeds, Seed Barn, American Seed Co., and similar farm-seed houses.
  • Regional options: Check Hancock Seed, DeLange Seed (Girard, KS area—has listed crownvetch), Feyh Farm Co., or other Kansas/Midwest farm-seed dealers and co-ops. Local agricultural suppliers or NRCS-affiliated sources can sometimes arrange bulk or help with inoculant.

Call for current bulk quotes, availability, shipping restrictions, and pure-live-seed (PLS) percentages. Some sellers restrict shipment into certain states (e.g., Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Missouri in some cases) because of invasive-species rules; Kansas does not appear on the common restriction lists for the sellers checked, but confirm when ordering. Ask specifically about inoculated seed or separate inoculant.



Practical recommendations for your 19-acre site

  1. Soil test and correct major deficiencies (lime/P/K as needed; avoid high nitrogen that favors weeds).
  2. Prepare a reasonably clean, firm seedbed if possible.
  3. Use a nurse crop + inoculant.
  4. Plant enough seed for good initial density if you want relatively quick dominance; otherwise accept a multi-year fill-in process.
  5. Monitor and control competing weeds the first couple of seasons if needed.

Because crownvetch is non-native and can become invasive in prairies, pastures, and natural areas across the Midwest (including neighboring states), confirm any local or county rules and consider whether the long-term “takeover” outcome is acceptable for the site and surrounding land. Once well established it is difficult and expensive to remove.

For the most current bulk pricing, shipping to the Topeka area, and site-specific advice, contact one or two of the larger suppliers plus your local K-State Research and Extension office or NRCS. They can also advise on any regional restrictions or better alternatives if the invasiveness becomes a concern later.

Friday, July 10, 2026

Re: Project Management gage37

Call me

From: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2026 9:45 AM
To: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Cc: jaharrington@topeka.org <jaharrington@topeka.org> <jaharrington@topeka.org>; mcre1.444danak@blogger.com <mcre1.444danak@blogger.com>
Subject: Re: Project Management gage37
 
Sounds like a plan. Ill get my guys to give us a bid too

Thanks

"Quality of a man's life is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence regardless of his field of endeavor." - Vince Lombardi

Wible Property Development LLC
Tyler Wible - Owner
520 SE 5th St. Topeka, KS 66607
(785) 430-0697

On Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 09:40 Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Update on Gage & 37th Street Project – Conversation with Joe Harrington
Date: Friday, July 10, 2026
Tyler,
I spoke with Joe Harrington regarding the cleanup of the church’s silt fence and its replacement. I also informed him that we are digging the new temporary entrance @ 38th.
We need to replace the curb and sidewalk at the old construction entrance right away. If you want your guys to bid that work, please do so quickly, as I will also be asking the Dollar General team to submit a bid. The current setup is creating a funnel that is making the street dirty.
Joe has approved not ripping out the curb or sidewalk today at the new construction entrance on 38th Street. However, I gave him my word that if we crush it up, we will replace it. Joe agreed that leaving the curb in place will likely help keep water out of Gage Street.
I also talked with Justin about cutting in from the sidewalk to the property line starting at 38th Street and going north so we can better assess what we’re dealing with. I have engaged Blackburn and may engage Schwartz to help get this finished.
Please let me know your thoughts or if you need any additional details.
Best regards,
Henry McClure MCRE, LLC Licensed Kansas Real Estate Broker 3625 SW 29th Street #100 Topeka, KS 66614 Phone: 785-383-9994 Email: mcre13@gmail.com

Project Management gage37

Subject: Update on Gage & 37th Street Project – Conversation with Joe Harrington
Date: Friday, July 10, 2026
Tyler,
I spoke with Joe Harrington regarding the cleanup of the church’s silt fence and its replacement. I also informed him that we are digging the new temporary entrance @ 38th.
We need to replace the curb and sidewalk at the old construction entrance right away. If you want your guys to bid that work, please do so quickly, as I will also be asking the Dollar General team to submit a bid. The current setup is creating a funnel that is making the street dirty.
Joe has approved not ripping out the curb or sidewalk today at the new construction entrance on 38th Street. However, I gave him my word that if we crush it up, we will replace it. Joe agreed that leaving the curb in place will likely help keep water out of Gage Street.
I also talked with Justin about cutting in from the sidewalk to the property line starting at 38th Street and going north so we can better assess what we’re dealing with. I have engaged Blackburn and may engage Schwartz to help get this finished.
Please let me know your thoughts or if you need any additional details.
Best regards,
Henry McClure MCRE, LLC Licensed Kansas Real Estate Broker 3625 SW 29th Street #100 Topeka, KS 66614 Phone: 785-383-9994 Email: mcre13@gmail.com

Thursday, July 9, 2026

Re: H. McClure 7-6-2026 Open Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)

All communications (internal and external) from or to the Public Works Director, Engineering Division, or other City staff regarding the statement that “crushed gravel is not approved for the right of way.”


Did we forget ? 



Henry McClure 
Time Kills Deals 
785.383.9994

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From: Bonnie Williams <bowilliams@topeka.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 2:55 PM
To: mcre13@gmail.com <mcre13@gmail.com>
Cc: City Clerk <cclerk@Topeka.org>; Mary E. Kuckelman Spinelli <mespinelli@topeka.org>
Subject: FW: H. McClure 7-6-2026 Open Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)
 

Henry:

This email is in response to your records request below. Attached please find readily available responsive records. 

 

Bonnie Williams

Services and Operations Manager

City of Topeka

Legal Department

215 SE 7th Street, Room 310

Topeka, KS  66603

(785) 368-3883

 

NOTICE: This message and any attachments may be confidential and contain legally privileged information. If you are not an employee of the City of Topeka (see K.S.A. 75-6102(d)), we do not waive any legal protection that may apply such as attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message and any attachments. Further, this communication is not intended to constitute, nor should it be relied upon, as legal advice to you.

 

 

 

From: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2026 6:49 PM
To: City Clerk <cclerk@topeka.org>
Subject: Subject: KORA Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)

 

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City Clerk 

Joseph A. Harrington, PE Project Manager, City of Topeka Engineering jaharrington@topeka.org

Dear Mr. Harrington,

Pursuant to the Kansas Open Records Act (K.S.A. 45-215 et seq.), I am submitting this formal request for public records related to the denial of my building permit(s) for the project near 37th & Gage.

Please provide the following records:

  1. All documents, emails, memoranda, notes, or correspondence that reference or explain the denial of the building permit, particularly any issues related to proposed ground treatment, crushed gravel, aggregate, geotextile fabric, or right-of-way improvements.
  2. All communications (internal and external) from or to the Public Works Director, Engineering Division, or other City staff regarding the statement that “crushed gravel is not approved for the right of way.”
  3. Any City policies, standards, specifications, or guidelines that prohibit or restrict the use of gravel, crushed stone, or aggregate mulch as ground treatment in the public right-of-way.
  4. Any inspection reports, plan review comments, or denial notices issued for this specific project concerning ROW ground cover or drainage/erosion control.
  5. Records of any similar approvals or denials of comparable ground treatments (geotextile + aggregate) on other Topeka development projects in the past 36 months.

Please produce these records in electronic format where possible.

Please provide the records as soon as possible and no later than the timeframe required by KORA. If any portion of this request is denied, please provide a written explanation citing the specific legal exemption.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. I can be reached at 785-383-9994 or mcre13@gmail.com if you need any clarification.

Sincerely,

Henry McClure MCRE, LLC 3625 SW 29th Street #100 Topeka, KS 66614 Phone: 785-383-9994 Email: mcre13@gmail.com

CC: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>

I was told the crushed gravel is not approved for the right of way. That came from the Public Works Director.

 

Joe Harrington, PE

Project Manager

City of Topeka Engineering

jaharrington@topeka.org

Office: 785-368-3041

Cell: 785-409-2129

 

Fw: LOOK



From: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 1:46 PM
To: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>; wible.pd@gmail.com <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Subject: FW: LOOK
 

 

 

From: Jason Tryon <jtryon@topeka.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 1:45 PM
To: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>; Mark Schreiner <MSchreiner@Topeka.org>
Subject: RE: LOOK

 

A full landscape design plan with drawings from a landscape architect or civil engineer noting locations, species type, spacing from ROW infrastructure, back of curb and sight triangle distance from intersections will be required before any alternate proposal will be considered.

 

This applicant has used up all of their informal requests.  They were told to comply with standard ROW design or to submit a xeriscaping proposal for review.  If they have a design plan with full drawings they may submit that, otherwise they need to conform to existing ROW standards as specified in the existing design criteria.

 

From: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 1:32 PM
To: Jason Tryon <jtryon@topeka.org>; Mark Schreiner <MSchreiner@Topeka.org>
Subject: FW: LOOK

 

 

 

From: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 11:18 AM
To: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>; Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Cc: Brandon Cain <CainsConstructionKS@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: LOOK

 

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Joe  - please have Jason approve 

 

Spacing Recommendations

For a linear 400-foot ROW:

  • Every 8–15 feet (center to center) for most 3–6 ft mature shrubs. This creates rhythm and visual breaks in the rock without overcrowding or blocking traffic/sight lines.
    • Closer spacing (6–10 ft) for a denser, more filled look over time (they'll spread modestly).
    • Wider (12–20 ft) for a sparser, modern/desert-inspired aesthetic with more rock visible.
  • Stagger in two informal rows (if width allows) for natural flow — e.g., offset plants on either side of the strip.
  • Total plants: Roughly 25–50 shrubs depending on exact spacing and strip width (e.g., 10–12 ft centers for ~30–40 plants). Start conservatively and let them fill in.

Key ROW Considerations:

  • Keep mature height/width low enough not to impede traffic, pedestrians, or visibility (generally under 3–4 ft in critical sight zones; check city standards for clear zones).
  • Plant slightly back from edges if possible.
  • Amend planting pockets with native soil/compost for better establishment, then surround with river rock.

 


From: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 8:56 AM
To: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Cc: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>; Brandon Cain <CainsConstructionKS@outlook.com>
Subject: RE: LOOK

 

We said we would consider a xeriscaping proposal which is what he asked for that would be environmentally friendly and reduce long term maintenance.  In order to be considered a xeriscaping proposal which is what he suggested, the aggregate would have to be decorative and be combined with a landscaping plan that included decorative elements like decorative grasses, plants, other ground cover or shrubs that would not impede traffic.

 

We will not accept a proposal that is simply placing aggregate in the ROW to avoid the cost of restoring the area to a proper condition.  If the applicants only concern is the lowest cost option, seed is recommended.

 

 

That’s the answer I received.

 

From: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 7:48 AM
To: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>
Cc: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>; Brandon Cain <CainsConstructionKS@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: LOOK

 

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Is there a rock that was allowed on another site that you can just point us to?

 

Lot of back and forth on decorative rock that looks like rock. If its just "no" we need a little more insight as to why... 

 

I'm having trouble finding a solution 

 

"Quality of a man's life is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence regardless of his field of endeavor." - Vince Lombardi

 

Wible Property Development LLC

Tyler Wible - Owner
520 SE 5th St. Topeka, KS 66607
(785) 430-0697

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On Thu, Jul 9, 2026, 07:43 Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org> wrote:

That’s what I was told.

 

From: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2026 7:43 AM
To: Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org>
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Tyler Wible - Owner
520 SE 5th St. Topeka, KS 66607
(785) 430-0697

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On Thu, Jul 9, 2026, 07:22 Joseph A. Harrington <jaharrington@topeka.org> wrote:

I was told no.

 

From: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2026 8:14 PM
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Monday, July 6, 2026

Fw: Subject: KORA Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)



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From: Brenda Younger <BYounger@Topeka.org>
Sent: Monday, 06 July 2026 09:23:42
To: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Cc: City Clerk <cclerk@Topeka.org>
Subject: RE: Subject: KORA Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)
 

Good morning,

 

The request has been received. You will receive a response within three (3) business days.

 

Thank you.

 

From: Henry McClure <mcre13@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2026 6:49 PM
To: City Clerk <cclerk@topeka.org>
Subject: Subject: KORA Records Request – Denial of Building Permit for 37th & Gage Project (Ground Treatment / ROW Aggregate Issue)

 

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City Clerk 

Joseph A. Harrington, PE Project Manager, City of Topeka Engineering jaharrington@topeka.org

Dear Mr. Harrington,

Pursuant to the Kansas Open Records Act (K.S.A. 45-215 et seq.), I am submitting this formal request for public records related to the denial of my building permit(s) for the project near 37th & Gage.

Please provide the following records:

  1. All documents, emails, memoranda, notes, or correspondence that reference or explain the denial of the building permit, particularly any issues related to proposed ground treatment, crushed gravel, aggregate, geotextile fabric, or right-of-way improvements.
  2. All communications (internal and external) from or to the Public Works Director, Engineering Division, or other City staff regarding the statement that “crushed gravel is not approved for the right of way.”
  3. Any City policies, standards, specifications, or guidelines that prohibit or restrict the use of gravel, crushed stone, or aggregate mulch as ground treatment in the public right-of-way.
  4. Any inspection reports, plan review comments, or denial notices issued for this specific project concerning ROW ground cover or drainage/erosion control.
  5. Records of any similar approvals or denials of comparable ground treatments (geotextile + aggregate) on other Topeka development projects in the past 36 months.

Please produce these records in electronic format where possible.

Please provide the records as soon as possible and no later than the timeframe required by KORA. If any portion of this request is denied, please provide a written explanation citing the specific legal exemption.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. I can be reached at 785-383-9994 or mcre13@gmail.com if you need any clarification.

Sincerely,

Henry McClure MCRE, LLC 3625 SW 29th Street #100 Topeka, KS 66614 Phone: 785-383-9994 Email: mcre13@gmail.com

CC: Tyler Wible <wible.pd@gmail.com>

I was told the crushed gravel is not approved for the right of way. That came from the Public Works Director.

 

Joe Harrington, PE

Project Manager

City of Topeka Engineering

jaharrington@topeka.org

Office: 785-368-3041

Cell: 785-409-2129

 

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